Finally, Someone Breaks the Guinea Election Sound Barrier, EU Observers: “Irregularities . . . which could put into question the sincerity of certain results”

UN monitors and diplomats observing Guinea’s first parliamentary vote in more than a decade cited “irregularities” Tuesday in the September 28 poll amid opposition accusations of fraud and calls for the ballot to be annulled.

By News Wires (text)

Diplomats and UN representatives observing Guinea’s first parliamentary elections in over a decade raised “irregularities” on Tuesday, amid calls from the opposition for the September 28 vote to be annulled over “fraud”.

The scathing observation is the latest blow to hit the polls, which were delayed numerous times due to disputes over their organisation, stoking ethnic tensions that have dogged Guinean politics since the country’s independence from France in 1958.

“Breaches and irregularities were observed in a certain number of constituencies, preventing a significant number of votes from being taken into account, and could therefore put into question the sincerity of certain results,” the diplomats said in a joint statement, pointing to issues in eight out of 38 constituencies.

The country’s electoral commission (CENI) should “identify these cases and refer to them in the document transmitting provisional results to the Supreme Court”, they added.

That should be filed as soon as possible to the court after provisional results are published, and within the deadline for any appeals, said the observers who include UN envoy Said Djinnit, US and French ambassadors, as well as representatives from the European Union and west African bloc ECOWAS.

Their statement came after the opposition demanded that the vote be annulled “because fraud was so massive”.

They charge that there had been ballot stuffing, voter intimidation and minors casting votes.

But in an interview with AFP on Tuesday, Guinea’s President Alpha Conde dismissed the opposition’s accusations.

“I don’t pay attention to all this,” Conde said.

“Every party has its view, but it is their responsibility to send their views to the Supreme Court, which is the only jurisdiction with the authority to decide,” he said.

“I am waiting for the outcome.”

Under Guinea’s election law, the supreme court has to rubberstamp the final results within 10 days of polls closing.

But 11 days after the polls, the national electoral commission has yet to publish full results, adding to tensions in Guinea.

According to partial and provisional results covering 36 out of 38 constituencies, Conde’s ruling Rally of the Guinean People (RPG) party is in the lead.

Analysts say it is to early to tell whether Conde’s party has secured an absolute majority in parliament.

Controversy has stalked the elections, which should have taken place within six months of the swearing in of Conde in December 2010, after his election the previous month in the first ever democratic vote for a head of state in a nation ravaged by political, military and ethnic violence.

However, it was pushed back with opposing factions unable to agree on how it should be staged, leaving the role of parliament to be played by an unelected National Transitional Council.

The last parliamentary elections in Guinea took place in June 2002 during the dictatorship of General Lansana Conte, who died in December 2008 after 24 years in power.

One of the poorest countries in the region despite vast potential for mineral exploitation, Guinea was run by a succession of autocratic rulers after gaining independence from France.



Guinea’s Legislative Election Postponed to September 28 – Reuters

Guinea’s legislative election postponed to September 28: mediator

CONAKRY | Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:47pm EDT

(Reuters) – Guinea’s long-delayed legislative election scheduled for Tuesday has been postponed by four days to September 28 following talks between the opposition and government on Saturday in Conakry, a U.N. mediator said.

Guinea’s main opposition leader had threatened to call supporters into the streets if authorities pushed ahead with the election without fully addressing complaints over preparations. He said he was satisfied with the delay announced on Saturday.

The poll, meant to cap Guinea’s transition back to civilian rule, has been delayed repeatedly since President Alpha Conde was elected three years ago, sowing doubts among Guineans, investors and donors over political progress in the world’s top bauxite exporter.

Said Djinnit, the U.N. mediator charged with ending a political deadlock in a country that is prone to violent street protests, said all parties had agreed to the delay to let the electoral commission fine-tune its plans.

“We are convinced that with this agreement, nothing can hinder the holding of parliamentary elections under free, transparent, and inclusive conditions on Saturday, September 28, 2013 in Guinea and abroad,” Djinnit said.

The opposition has complained that the voter list is riddled with errors, meaning many of its supporters have been left off while people elsewhere in the country have been registered several times over.

It also complains that polling stations in opposition strongholds have been scattered far apart, meaning voters would have to travel far and therefore be less likely to vote.

Cellou Dalein Diallo, the main opposition leader, said he had wanted a longer delay to fix the problems but had agreed to the compromise of Sept 28.

“For the credibility of the agreement (reached between the political parties), it was important to have a further delay,” he said.

Dozens of people have been killed in protests over the election preparations this year.

Election experts say the delay will allow organizers to address some of the issues, but a fundamental lack of trust between the two sides and the election commission, which is seen as pro-Conde, means tensions are likely to simmer.

The West African nation’s economic growth forecast has been slashed to 2.9 percent for this year, down from 4.5 percent, because of the protests and political paralysis.

The unrest and a review of contracts led to major mining firms – looking to tap into Guinea’s iron ore reserves, seen as some of the world’s largest – stalling planned projects.

(Writing by David Lewis and Bate Felix; Editing by Peter Cooney)

UN’s Djinit Sends in the Cavalry: A Technical Comm. – EU, ECOWAS and the Francophonie

Xinhua reported yesterday that an international cavalry, consisting of representatives of the EU, ECOWAS and the Francophonie, will work on technical aspects of Guinea’s legislative elections along with the government and opposition.  Decision on postponement of the election has not been announced yet, so it’s difficult to know just how these representatives will fit into the process.
The Francophonie’s duplicitous machinations in favor of Conde in 2010 should make the opposition wary at this juncture.  Don’t forget that the Francophonie has a checkered reputation when it comes to managing other countries’ elections — Gabon, Cameroon, for example. Overall, this cavary is not there to seek an appropriate delay in the elections so that the breadth of “irregularities” can be identified and addressed.  These folks are in Guinea to close the deal.
ECOWAS (CEDEAO) representative, Kadre Desire Ouedrago made a statement to the press a short while ago saying that he thinks preparations for the elections are complete at this juncture. Mr. Ouedrago goes on talking for a while and his numerous kernels of “wisdom” reveal he is trying too hard. Now you can add, ECOWAS on the same side of the balance book with Francophonie.  Can EU be far behind?
Published on Friday, 20 September 2013 11:56 p.m.
Written by Barrie K

to produce a report outlining the circumstances of the situation

In order to correct discrepancies, the Guinean opposition asked Friday during a short meeting led by the college of the facilitators, one-month postponement of parliamentary elections, initially prevented for September 24.

After a meeting of more than 10 clock hours, stakeholders dialogue and negotiation have not found consensus on respect for the timetable previously set by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), following the political agreement achieved last July 3.

On this, the delegation of the opposition felt it takes 30 days to correct any deficiencies in the electoral process in order to obtain a clean and reliable electoral register. The number of anomaly discussed duplicates, cutting the electoral map and approximation of their voters polling stations nationwide.

Meanwhile, the delegation of presidential movement evoked a delay of one week is more than enough to correct the shortcomings of file and obtain reliable data to go to the required legislation.

To decide on all electoral matters, technical crisis committee composed of experts from the European Union (EU), the International Organization of la Francophonie (OIF), ECOWAS, and two representatives of the opposition and presidential camp has been set up to produce a report outlining the circumstances prevailing situation.

Xinhua News Agency

Guinea’s Election of Fraud and an International Comm. Pretending Otherwise

En_Route_pour_le_Cimétière_1One of many young victims, Fode Mamoudou Bah, of Guinean security forces’ extrajudicial executions during opposition demonstrations, October 22, 2012

If you have seen videos of opposition campaign rallies, you know the crowds are huge.  The attendees appear hungry for, well, anyone who is not Alpha Conde.  In fact, campaign rallies held during the 2010 presidential campaign were just as large and lively but it did little good when up against built-in fraud and and dirty tricks disenfranchisement coordinated by the CENI, Sekouba Konate, Alpha Conde and his RPG loyalists and enough state-sponsored forces to dole out the necessary repression to hold the farce together.

These days, the CENI is imploding under the weight of its current misdeeds and illegal manipulation of the electoral process. This includes not living up to the July 3 agreement which was supposed to signal an end to “hostilities” and a return to legislative elections.  But, each day, more and more evidence surfaces of a spectacular fraudulent election in the making for September 24.  So much so, the opposition is threatening a return to the streets in a few days if the CENI and the government do not come through on their commitments and adhere to constitutional provisions regarding elections.  
As for the people of Guinea, they are getting a bitter dose of the election, even before it starts.  There are numerous reports of voters not being able to find their names on the voting roll.  Also, the CENI’s plan to add thousands of new voter stations throughout the country is worrisome for many.  First, adding so many new stations presents a logistical nightmare for voters trying to determine if they are to report to their old voting station or if they have been re-assigned to a new one and whether the voting roll will contain their names when they get there.  The CENI promises to add all missing names to the voter roll as well as make sure all voters are informed if they are to report to new voting stations.  Representatives of the international community are echoing the CENI’s promises as if to re-assure Guineans and the rest of the world that the CENI means what it says.  It’s a good thing Guineans are not fools, because this is, as they say, “deja vu all over again.” In 2010, many found their names absent from the voter rolls and found themselves often assigned to the incorrect voting stations.  This was not incompetence nor happenstance, it was by design.
Ironically, in the United States, after the passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which ensures citizens the right to vote, Southern whites conspired to prevent African-Americans from voting.  Their primary tools?  Removing names of African-Americans from voting rolls and bouncing them from one voting station to another, knowing that the need to get to jobs or a lack of transportation money would prevent them from being able to cast a ballot. The combined impact of these methods resulted in the disenfranchisement of large numbers of African-Americans well after the Voting Rights Act became the law of the land.   
The international community has needs that can only be met with the completion of Guinea’s legislative elections.  There is aid money to be distributed, projects to pursue and investor confidence to bolster.  What happens during the election is of little significance as long as a few representatives of the international community publicly announce, the day after the election, “while the election had some irregularities, overall, it was free and fair.”  It worked in the 2010 election and it will work again.  But, diplomats, UN and EU representatives, etc., remain uneasy. The signs are unmistakable on social media as they or their organizations issue cheerful, downright uplifting messages which obscure the truth of the enormous fraud already built into the Guinean electoral system — “there will always be issues in any election.”  Of course there will, but it’s a matter of proportion.  In the 2010 election, it took a mountain of fraud for the CENI et al. to go from a first round with Conde getting 18% and Cellou Dalein Diallo’s 53% of the vote (which would have won him the presidency if Louceny Camara had not stolen over 50,000 ballots cast for him in Conakry).  And, then, from there to Diallo losing in the second round??  Fraude extraordinaire!  Yet, the day after the election, Alpha Conde was Guinea’s “first democratically-elected president.”  Yet, those who anointed Conde as such, would never accept an election in their countries if the CENI was running it.  The international community shows the people of Guinea an immense amount of disrespect when it expects them to tolerate this situation.
The point is the international community needs order and calm in Guinea and they expect to achieve it with this election.  Yet, most importantly, this isn’t just any legislative election.  This is the election that will validate Conde’s “win” of the 2010 election.  When he “wins” a majority in the national assembly, no one in the international community will be interested in hearing about Conde’s sins nor his crimes.  Yet, to the people of Guinea, he is a lawless usurper and they will never stop trying to get rid of him.  They can’t stop because he has been responsible for too many deaths, too many lives destroyed, too many arbitrary arrests, and too many attacks on opposition demonstrations and Peul neighborhoods by state forces supplemented by Malinke militias, Donzos, etc. who have killed, raped and destroyed livelihoods.  And, yes, you may also lay at the feet of Alpha Conde the impact of his theft of elections which prevents the MAJORITY of the population from having any true political representation and, therefore, no participation in determining the course of their country.
By September 25, Conde may succeed in stealing his second election in three years and with it, he will have managed to alienate well over half the people of Guinea.  When you steal an election, much less two, you arrive or are maintained in office, but have no real mandate to govern.  Only massive repression will keep Conde in place.  There can be no doubt that Conde will pull out all the stops in the next two years of his presidency to crush the opposition, especially its Peul members.  And, much of the blame for the coming carnage must be placed at the feet of an international community for passing off wildly fraudulent elections as hallmarks of democracy.  
One day, the international community will be forced to choose between Alpha Conde and the people of Guinea. If unable, there are many who will make the decision for them. 

EU Electoral Experts Trying to Disassociate from CENI’s Fraudulent Election – Their Letter to CENI Prez

The European Union’s electoral experts working on the legislative elections wrote a letter to Bakary Fofana, CENI president this past Friday.  In a nutshell, it says:  “The jig is up and we are out of here.” 

The problems cited in their letter to Fofana are nothing new and Fofana’s duplicitous dealings have been there from day one — just ask opposition representatives to the CENI.
The EU team decided that, if it was to preserve a shred of its credibility, it needed to pull the fire alarm.
Here are excerpts from their letter:    

I regret to inform you that as to the technical consultation on the timing of the additional review, the technical assistance of the European Union has been systematically excluded from internal consultations . . .
After the facilitation of the political dialogue, the CENI was charged with proposing a new consensus timetable, taking into account the urgency and exceptional circumstances of the electoral process, making it the duty of the technical assistants who accompany the CENI to report risks arising from poor technical assessment of operations and the lack of consultation with all the actors in the structure and the technical experts.
It would be unfortunate if the CENI, which has been the subject of strong criticism throughout the dialogue, cannot take advantage of this opportunity to improve its credibility by offering a realistic timetable that is professional and acceptable to all stakeholders in the process.
Given the present context in which you appear to signal both a lack of transparency and an interest in improving collaboration between the technical experts and the CENI, we will not be able to continue this support, which necessarily involves suspension of our activities, putting into question the support of the EU in the electoral process in Guinea.
In order to restore a correlation of trust and satisfactory working conditions, it would be highly desirable to organize a meeting with the CENI, experts and donors to review the modalities for intervention for international technical assistance with the CENI.
June 14, 2013
Stephanie Vergniault
Axel Gysel
Codjo Kangala
EU electoral experts

Presidential Press Release: Conde’s Election Preparation Story is an Exercise in Creative Writing. Will the Intended Audience, the International Community, Buy It?

Someone in the presidential press office, with a lot of energy, sewed together the following story of how a brave Alpha Conde, striving for free and fair elections and, with the help of the EU, the Organization of the Internationale Francophonie – OIF, and the UNDP, will bring Guineans the most transparent election on the planet – not. The press release appears further down.

The author of the press release must have sat down with Conde’s appointments secretary and extracted all the meetings from Conde’s calendar which appear to be even remotely pertinent to election preparation. Conde is quoted often throughout the text saying lofty and patriotic things – you, know like a real head of state.

The press release demonstrates that Conde relies on reviews by international community representatives of the election computer systems to assure the people of Guinea that everything will be alright. Unfortunately, everything is not alright.

The EU, in the personhood of Philippe Van Damme, passed himself off as a computer whiz and lavishly praised the Waymark company pronouncing the system ready to be used, much to the anger of the pposition. It turns out Mr. Van Damme is not a “computer whiz” and his overly optimistic assessment of the wonders of Waymark was way off the mark. Opposition supporters have demonstrated in front of EU offices in Conakry over this issue. The OIF is a bit problematic in that it was quite helpful during the 2010 election in getting Alpha Conde selected as president. On the other hand, it redeemed itself slightly by doing a thorough review of the computerized election preparations and came up with 20 major problems which needed reconciling. And, what did the government do with this? It ended up in the hands of the CENI president who concealed it from the opposition for months and, when it was finally shared, it was this past February and deemed too late to address OIF’s concerns. A similar incident happened with the UNDP assessment which firmly challenged the electoral computer system. The UNDP report was presented to the government in April 2012. The head of the CENI concealed the report from fellow CENI members and the opposition.

In the end, how can you trust Conde who stole his presidency in 2010 to be on the straight and narrow with legislative elections in 2013? Remember that Conde came to office with a major mandate deficit after his fraudulent finish and the legislative election is the only way he can demonstrate that “Guineans are with him.” But, Alpha Conde is even less popular now than when he was “selected” in 2010.  He has only one choice — commit massive fraud to create his own mandate from the people.

In the end, the presidential press office produced a pretty good story –- unfortunately, it’s not good enough to be true.

[Translation via Google to English]

Politics – Press Release President of the Republic on the political situation.

posted April 16, 2013 at 9:50 am

The President, Professor Alpha Conde took Saturday, April 13, 2013, the decree convoking the electorate on 30 June.
After reassured that all conditions are met preparation techniques on the side of the Ceni, the Head of State is to meet the expectations of Guineans: “I am a democratically elected president, I will never accept that during my tenure, elections are held that are not transparent and democratic, “stated, there is this year, Mr. President.
For this purpose, the Head of State had stated some concerns among which:
-The completion of the transfer of all data alfa-numeric and bio-digital SAGEM to the new operator of the revision of electoral rolls, Waymark. The President asked in this context the cooperation of the European Union (EU), the Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (OIF) and the United Nations Programme for Development (UNDP);
-Transparency and information sharing between INEC and all election stakeholders, particularly political parties participating in elections, and technical and financial partners;
-The course in a timely revision of the electoral exceptional throughout the national territory;
-Strict adherence to statutory provisions governing the conduct of elections in our country. These provisions are contained in the Organic Law on the Electoral Code, Act 013 establishing the responsibilities, composition, organization and functioning of the CENI.
All these concerns are met today, the Government and INEC went beyond expectations. Also on 11 April, the Government spokesman, Albert Damantang Camara, should he say: “… the government has insisted that the security of the ballot is now guaranteed by the experts of the European Union which have particular noted that all recommendations contained in the report of the OIF were taken into account by the CENI. Moreover, the Francophonie itself, will again be closely associated, and in the weeks to come, the election process.

Strong conclusions and recommendations of audits conducted by the various computer experts available to the electoral process, including the European Union, and to meet a guarantee of transparency and increased confidence in the computer system management of the electoral Guinea, INEC decided at its plenary session on 29 March 2013, to implement, with the assistance of its technical and financial partners, allowing control measures to independent third parties to follow the enrollment process including:
-Setting up of monitoring software revision operations at the central site;
-The execution, by a third party, the die doublonnage multi-biometrics (fingerprints and facial);
-The establishment of a committee to monitor the operations of revision of electoral rolls in which will serve the department heads of the CENI, the experts of technical and financial partners, in support of INEC and those of the two alliances recognized by the Act (opposition movement).
To date, according to the latest report of the expert of the European Union mandated for this purpose, all the technical recommendations of the OIF and UNDP have been resolved by the Technical Operator and concludes that” the security access to kits has been increased to an unprecedented level.” All these implementations should provide technical and administrative greatly strengthen the confidence of political actors in the electoral process. “
“Every effort will be made ​​to the parliamentary elections copies. The Government, with the support of its partners and the full participation of political parties and voters hope that these elections are the occasion of the establishment of a central pillar of our republican institutions: the National Assembly “ , the minister said government spokesman.
In the framework of consultations with stakeholders in the electoral process, to allow free elections, transparent and accepted by all, the President met with representatives of political parties (including the opposition) and the company Civil Nov. 15, 2011.
He, always with the aim of consultations to identify the solutions for moving the law, met Wednesday, April 25, 2012, Mr. Diallo, president of the UFDG, as representative of political parties to collective the completion of the transition and the Alliance for Democracy and Progress.
Friday, April 27, 2012, the President of the Republic had a meeting with the diplomatic corps accredited to Guinea, including representatives of the G8, the ambassadors of Nigeria, China and Russia. Also present were the coordinator of the UN system, the Head of the Delegation of the European Union and the Resident Representative of ECOWAS.
That same Friday, April 27, 2012, the President of the Republic received the 24 commissioners of the Independent National Electoral Commission.
Saturday, April 28, 2012, the President of the Republic received Mr Jean-Marie Dore, president of the UPG, in his capacity as representative parties of the Centre.
The Head of State also met with the Secretary General of the RPG-Arc-en-ciel, Dr. Saloum Cisse, in his capacity as representative parties claiming the presidential majority.
Several other meetings were held between the President and various members of the opposition throughout the year 2012 and 2013.
In early March 2013, as part of the revival of the national dialogue, the Head of State, on its own initiative, has also received representatives of all political Guinea. Aboubacar Sylla (spokesman of ADP, and the Collective CDR), the SARP Dialikatou Diallo and Dr. Bangoura of the Faculty have participated in this meeting.
“We are all responsible for peace in our homeland. The entire political class, without distinction, whether the presidential, center or opposition must work to enable Guinea to move forward and focus on economic reforms they need to improve living conditions its people, “stated President Alpha Condé, who made ​​the proposal to set up a permanent framework for dialogue led by Prime Minister Mohamed Said Fofana.
“The convening of the electorate for June 30 in no way calls into question the dialogue that must continue,” said the government spokesman, Albert Camara Damantang.
It should be remembered that such to allow the resumption of national dialogue, INEC had accepted the judgment of the revision of electoral rolls and has also completed the restructuring of administrative committees of revision of electoral rolls (CARLE) the government wanted an electoral census to give every citizen the opportunity to receive a free new biometric identity card, finally agreed a simple revision of Article 162, which allowed the Chairman of INEC to cancel polling was amended and the government through a circular letter MATD, aimed at territorial administrators, said the neutrality of the Administration in the electoral process, and then redial Joint CENI has been made, with 10 members of the movement president, 10 members of the opposition, civil society 3 and 2 of the Administration, and finally an international facilitator was appointed by the United Nations as part of the dialogue.
All these actions are part of the will of the President of the Republic to find a compromise with the electoral actors to go to elections in a consensual framework.
The President invited the Guinean people to mobilize in a highly open and transparent political competition to choose the calm, ethical and electoral law, its representatives in the future National Assembly.
“The exemplary conduct of the election on 30 June 2013 confirm the political maturity of the Guinean people’s faith in the institutions of the Republic, its commitment to meet the challenges of consolidating democracy and the rule of law in our country” he said.
Sékhoutouréya, April 15, 2013

The Press Office of the President

CENI and Waymark Get Married – Opposition Asks for CENI Prez’ Resignation


Early in the week, many Guineans were attending the funerals of and paying homage to the eleven military men who died in the Monday plane crash, but Guinea’s many political problems continued boiling just below the surface.

CENI and Waymark contractor

After a year of smoke and mirrors and lies and deception, CENI prez, Bakary Fofana, announced on Thursday that the Waymark contract is the CENI’s final choice for conducting the revision of electoral rolls in preparation for legislative elections scheduled for May 12, 2013. Of course, the nine members of the CENI who held a press conference last week about Fofana making decision unilaterally, said that they were given no opportunity to weight in on the selection of the contractor.

Getting rid of the Waymark contract is a longstanding demand of the opposition. Its primary concerns are that it is a no bid contract and Waymark has a considerable reputation for “fixing” elections.”

In June 2012, the Francophonie, the organization which will “oversee” the 2013 election, brought in experts to review Waymark’s systems design. It found 20 anomalies in the system. The experts returned to Guinea in August and November 2012 to see if the problems had been fully corrected, but they had not. It wrote a final report and gave it to the government in November. The government withheld the report for three months refusing to share it with the opposition until just this month. If the Guinean government had not concealed OIF’s final report, which noted that numerous anomalies remain in the system, Waymark would have been out on its ear. After this shell game, the opposition called for Bakary Fofana’s resignation.

The tyranny of Alpha Conde’s regime continues. Knowing that Conde’s party, the RPG, doesn’t have the votes to win a majority in the 2013 election, knowing that Conde colluded with the Francophonie to steal the 2010 election, knowing that Conde plans to steal the 2013 elections, and knowing that they have a contract with Waymark, a company proficient in election fraud, one has to wonder, why would Guineans show up at the polls in May?


Opposition Youth Would Like to Send EU Representative, Philippe Van Dame, Back Home to Belgium on a One-Way Ticket. The Problem? Waymark.

What’s wrong with Westerners? Are they all arrogant and believe they are smarter than others? Months ago, Philippe Van Dame, the EU representative to Guinea, stated that his review of the Waymark systems design suggests that it is not flawed and that using Waymark as a contractor should not be a stumbling block for holding legislative elections in May. He continued to push the point recently as well.

Van Dame continues to push the point and, today, young opposition supporters demonstrated outside his office in Conakry to tell him to quit interfering in Guinea’s internal politics. From the beginning, Van Dame has tried to pass himself off as a computer expert, in order to bring more authority to his positive opinion of Waymark. Van Dame is an not an expert in the field, he is partisan. One protester said, if he wishes to become a member of the RPG party (Conde’s party), he should do so. Otherwise, he should be quiet.

Van Dame and every other diplomat who attempts to legitimize Guinea’s choice of Waymark is supporting a fraudulent election and accepts the fact that millions of Guineans will be disenfranchised. How ironic. Mr. Van Dame would never vote in an election, in his home country of Belgium, if it had the same flaws as Guinea’s elections. In fact, Mr. Van Dame would probably lead the crowd to have those committing the fraud arrested and thrown in jail.